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- Mon May 25, 2009 8:08 pm #118676 Hey guys,

I did a bit of searching here and on Google and didn't come up with a definitive answer so I figured I'd create a thread for it.

While I've been watching other people and reading about driving a manual for years, I've only been doing it for about a month (since I got my teal hatch).

Sometimes I'll be, say, rolling up a hill towards a red light and it changes as I'm still rolling at ~5mph. Because of the incline, if I throw it into second and blip the rpm's a bit it still bogs down and shudders like it's going to stall. Yet if I ease the shifter into first, I get a slight grind that has me worried about tranny damage.

Is this normal? Should I never shift into first unless at a standstill? And if not, what is the "proper" process for shifting into first while slowly rolling?

Side note - if the clutch is in but tranny's in neutral and you rev the engine, does it still spin the tranny shaft? I only ask because I figured that may help when shifting into first while rolling, if I can try to sync first to my current speed. I'm a novice when it comes to transmissions, I've seen inside of them, of course, and have read "how they work" articles but I still don't have a complete understanding of their mechanics.

Thanks for any/all help guys

- Mon May 25, 2009 8:17 pm #118677 I HATE when this happens to me with a passion.

If the clutch is in, it is disengaged. The engine and trans aren't connected.

It is best if you only try and put it in first when your stopped or under(I read somewhere) 4 mph. otherwise it could bend the shift forks =[

I just stay in second, or stop go in first, OR clutch in rev and apply small pressure until it sinks into first. Screw the people behing you

- Mon May 25, 2009 8:44 pm #118680 Ah, suppose I got my ins and outs confused then. I pictured clutch in as pedal is up, clutch out is pedal down. I guess it's the reverse, then? And if that is the case, I was asking if the clutch is OUT but in neutral, will it spin the tranny still.

Hmm...definitely don't need to destroy anything in the tranny for the sake of people behind me haha.

OR clutch in rev and apply small pressure until it sinks into first

I imagine this has to be done quickly if one is on a hill, unless it involves some heel/toe shifting ;-). And to reinforce the steps of what I quoted - pedal down, rev engine while easing into first and release clutch once it's engaged?

Thanks for the answer, by the way, I appreciate it :-D

- Mon May 25, 2009 10:36 pm #118701 I got up halfway throught and lost my train of though...so here is a jumble of info...


I think i confused you with in and out( i was refering to the pedal. In meaning pressed down)

So-
When the pedal is being pressed to the floor. It is seperating plates// disengaging.

when it is being let up the clutch is grabbing/engaging.

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You wont need to heel toe unless you need to brake and downshift.
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things is first sucks. I press down clutch and coast until my speed is slow enough and slide it into first, or deal with second
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To sync speeds you must let the pedal up.(if you just leave the pedal down the plates wont matched speed)
Called double clutching(double clutch downshift)
So your in too low of an rpm, so instead of just shifting down, you can match it. Which helps the longevity of your transmission too

Press clutch
go into neutral
let pedal up
rev
press clutch
select gear
let pedal up while applying throttle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI3cHXnGEx4